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[Aunt Clair]

Religion and Astral Projection  

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I was wondering what religion Astral Projection seems to point towards?

Imho and ime ;

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You travellers talk like you can speak with the deceased and stuff. maybe it means god exist, but god dosnt mean bible god, it means a god, maybe a cosmic god of the universe with no religion.

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So I wonder, those that have been there, which is real?Are any real?
I have met so many that I believe these are all real and aspects of the Splintered Divine Sentient Light called the Godhead .

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If there is a god of what religion is he from?

A poly universal source

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Hell, is there one?

A lower plane does exist , you can visit it in projection . It is not a Christian creation but existed polyuniversally before this planet formed . The Sumerians , Egyptians , Hindu , Buddhists , Greeks , Romans , Celts and Norse also had an underworld afterlife of karmic cxonsequences

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do you only go if your not enlightened?

Those who are there are constrained by their vibration which is a weight of sorrow , guilt , fear , hatred , intolernace , revenge , and not being forgiven by those yet alive . Some stay a short time some stay for centuries .

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Reincarnation, do souls there claim its real?

Yes Christ teaches that reincarnation is real . Each has one spirit which has only one life but the soul reincarnates taking lessons and current vibration to the next vessel .

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and last I jsut thought I would add, Angels, are origionally from Zoroastrianism, as are demons, so seeing them would point towards that right?

Angels and Demons are eternal and internal . Each of us has a guardian angel and guardian demon . We can unite with the GA and transmute the GD by freewill to begin ascension . The external angels and demons can be manifested from the avatars Lilith showed us a group of 8 she made and Christ showed us a group of 8 he manifested also . Angels and Demons are not particular to Christianity either but certainly exist in the Hindu and Buddhic  religions etc .

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and when you see religious figures, how do you know they are not jsut manifestations of an entire world thinking they exist?

You will learn to see and hear if you develop your energy body . If you sit with a circle of peers you can confirm and correct what you sense together .

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how do you know their not willed into creation by followers of that religion unknowingly?

I believe some do not exist and are entirely myth and these can appear like a shadow a construct of thoughtform which is not interactive .

[Aunt Clair]

I am confident that Godhead appears spontaneously to lovingly teach any human who can see and hear. They want to do this to teach us like parents want to teach a child to walk, ride a bike , read a book or swim. It is the goal of Godhead that we will become "in their image" through a slow and deliberate spiritual evolution.

The Godhead reincarnates over time into diverse cultures. It is not unusual for a Christian mystic , for example , to be visited by a Hindu God. In this we learn to expand our limited perspective and to know that God loves all peoples and is not one race or one gender.

Many magicians have believed that Isis is Mary and that Krishna is Christ, for example. I do not expect another to believe this and I do not mean to offend someone who cannot accept the cross cultural reincarnation of the Godhead. But it is not an uncommon belief amongst magicians as can be seen through a googling. Theosophists in general , Blavatsky, Bailey , Stone et al have written about this.

So we should not be surprised when Shiva appears to a Hermetic magician to teach about ascension because Ascension Alchemy is facilitated by Hermetic Magick and the Emerald Tablet is a recipe for both. Some branches naturally braid into a higher form. Initiatic magick braids into ascension alchemy and Hermetic Magick blends into Ceremonial Magick.

And as ascension begins the magician will become clairvoyant and somewhat clairaudient, and they will begin to see and hear the Godhead administer lessons to them. These will occur first in dreamstate , then in trance meditation , then they will occur in any altered state of consciousness such as during a daydream while bored in a waiting room. The veils thin between the dimensions and their loving presence begins to envelope the magician so that any time that they trance the next lesson begins . Our souls instinctively bookmark our place in the naturally occurring curriculum by the vibration we have attained. Once we attain a higher vibration a new level of lessons commences.

Godhead will appear without evocation when that magician's light vibration indicates their readiness for a part of the natural curriculum of ascension & enlightenment.

Shiva and Vishu have appeared to my circle of magicians before. Typically they present lessons concerning kundalini. Other aspects of Godhead will appear concerning exorcism, others concerning healing.

There is one omniscient never incarnated God which is neither female or male but divine sentient light but is  a spark of which exists in us all . There are ten fingers of that Godhead which incarnate as male and female across diverse cultures and continents and planets carrying similar messages and sending compassionate wisdoms to all who meditate, project mystically and seek ascension . Many avatars have incarnated. The God of your fathers is not the only God or Goddess you will meet in the realms .

In a circle of magicians, the energy is much higher than the sum of each individual as reported by Franz Bardon. This amplification makes it easier to see and hear the teaching spirits.

My mystics peers and I have met diverse aspects of the Godhead whilst in circle including but not limited to ;
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African: Orijah, Yemaja
Sumerian/Annunaki : Enki,Marduk,Ianna,Nammu,Tiamet
Egyptian :Thoth, Horus, Isis, Osiris, Seth, Bas, Anubis
Hindu: Krishna, Vishnu, Shiva,Skanda, Ganesh, Khali, Pavati, Lakshmi, Saraswati,Jyoti
Buddhic: Quan Yen, Buddha, Green Tara, Kuan Ti
Semitic: Christ, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Melchiezedek, Mohammed, Fatima,Archangels, Asherah
Greek/Roman : Apollo, Athena, Hermes, Hathor, Hecate,Gaia, Persephone
Celtic: Lugh,Rhiannon,Morgana, Bronwyn, Bridget, Cerridwen
Norse: Thor, Odin, Frigga, Freya

The Divine Emanation of the never incarnate non gendered sentient light fractures as it enters the Tree of Life on the spine of the magician. The 7 basal chakras are the lamps of this splintered prism causing the full spectrum of visible light to occur on the spine separate into jewel toned colours in rainbow order ; red, orange, yellow, green, blue , indigo, violet.

The divine light spreads throughout the magician's body like sap runs through the tree into the teeniest of twigs. The human energy body continues to colour up further as new energy centres manifest and develop layer upon layer. The colouring is a testament to that magician's development and progress thus far.

I believe there are 10 fingers of the Elohimic Godhead each of which is a unique element and gender. So that there is a female fire finger and a male fire finger. These elementally categorised hands  will, in time, appear on the energy body of the magician;

left pinky purple female water eg Yemaja, Isis,Hathor,Mut,Mary,Fatima,Athena,
l ring ;amber female fire;eg Khali, Lilith, Hecate,Ianna ,Lilith,Hestia, Ameratsu,
l middle  aqua female air ; eg Nut, Quan Yen ,Nammu ,Tara , Artemis , Rhiannon
l index rose female earth eg Gaia,Yemaya,Bast,Cerridwen
Left Thumb    Sun ;God
Right Thumb  Moon;Goddess
right index chartreuse male air; eg Christ, Uranus,Saturn, Melchiezedek
r middle  salmon male earth ; eg Marduk, Geb, Seth, Anubis, Osiris,Hades, Pluto,Cerunnos
r ring indigo male water ; eg Thoth,Enki,Horus,Krishna,Enoch
r pinky  orange male fire ; eg Ra, Khnomn Ra,Lugh

When this occurs; it is a testament that the magician is attuned to the male and female aspect of each element so they will be able to evoke at will at that time, if the voice centre has also developed. Typically it would have already occurred, at that stage.And the presence of the hermetically coloured up fingers on the energy body indicates that the magician can manipulate the elemental energies influently and effluently.


The entire cosmos is present in the heart centre of each human . This is called the microcosm. The entire cosmos is external to each human too. That is called the macrocosm.

The magician will learn about healing,patience, love, forgiveness,  universal tolerance, divine mercy, justice, karma, consequences, cosmology of the human soul, cosmology of the realms /dimensional planes, shamynism, exorcism, changes in the human energy body during ascension,alchemical contagion, monad communication, et cetera.

The Divine Curriculum is already established. Once the magician sets their foot upon the path through Initiatic Magick and Ascension Alchemy the curriculum will unfold. Through practice the body will build up its light quotient , manifest more energy centres ,attain and increase sidhi powers and become gradually enlightened.

The magician need only establish a sacred space in their home for workings. Then daily enter that sacred space in dim light and sit in a throne asana with limbs uncrossed. Focus on breathing. Deep breath cleanse crown to toes .Raise energy foot to crown. Take awareness to brow centre and enter trance.
The teachers will appear to the magician. They will not ask for anything. They teach in loving service to humanity.

Initially they may just appear , later the magician will get a vision from them teaching a lesson, then a word or a message might be heard. Repeat lessons with the same avatar will attune the magician to be able to hear and see that teacher more fully especially when they manifest in a pillar in a sacred space surrounded by a circle of magicians.

The process is not difficult. It requires time and dedication but nothing else. Some non verbal cognitively impaired multiply challenged individuals can do this at birth giving further witness to the process of self realization carried by the monad through each soul in subsequent incarnations.

First the magician will develop ability to trance, and they will begin dreamstate lessons and dreamstate projections, then they will project at will and begin to  see clairvoyantly getting messages in visions, then they will develop some clairaudience and hear a bit of the lessons. The teachers can be evoked when the voice centre develops. And the path continues...

[sono]

That was such a lovely post, Aunt Clair!  I too have always been concerned that I may be projecting an image & not coming into contact with empirically real Higher Beings; but a few months ago I met a Guide for the first time; a tall, thin "wispy" being who stood beside me, looking out of a window at some world.  I asked It's name, & the reply was that I was too "abstract"  for  names to have real meaning; It said it was one of many guides & that they were always with me.  I have often tried to initiate contact again, but have not experienced such a visual, personal interchange again.

Do you think that the Being expresses itself to us in accordance with our expectations, or is there a "real" form that it holds of itself. . .not sure how to express this.

[Leswan]

It was a great post. Thanks AC and thanks Sono for bringing my attention to it.

[Aunt Clair]

That was such a lovely post, Aunt Clair!  

Thank you. I needed some encouragement this morning 

I too have always been concerned that I may be projecting an image & not coming into contact with empirically real Higher Beings; but a few months ago I met a Guide for the first time; a tall, thin "wispy" being who stood beside me, looking out of a window at some world.  I asked It's name, & the reply was that I was too "abstract"  for  names to have real meaning; It said it was one of many guides & that they were always with me.  I have often tried to initiate contact again, but have not experienced such a visual, personal interchange again.

If you build up the energy in your sacred space room and within your human energy body, you will find that it is easier for you to clairiently ;feel , see and hear . You can do this by learning to open in protective prayers and moving energy within the room and by drawing fresh pranic intake through the body before trancing.

Do you think that the Being expresses itself to us in accordance with our expectations, or is there a "real" form that it holds of itself. . .not sure how to express this.

Both, I am sure. Initially a human will only experience Godhead in the form that they expect but as the magician develops in experience they will be given lessons regarding other cultural avatars. Historically, intolerance and prejudice has existed amongst developing magicians right across the globe. To open our eyes that there is not one way to the light we need to see the unfolding of Godhead across time and accept that our limited perspective is not the only path.

One of the principle lessons of Godhead is compassion through tolerance , mercy and love. By appearing to a magician and providing the invaluable next step of their own curriculum in the form of another culture , the Godhead makes us want to listen. And we are more willing then to accept another truth that God is male and female and neither gendered and the Being incarnates to all cultures teaching to humanity;love, peace, compassion, mercy, tolerance,charity and service.

[sono]

Very interesting point about culture, AC. . . . personally, I have always been "allergic" to the very idea of being of a particular race, nationality, etc & have tried to immerse myelf in what were, to me at the beginning,  totally alien cultures, & it has always opened a "new channel" in my brain.

 I often have dreams where a commentator explains that I am now having "the Geisha experience", "the Japanese garden experience", the "alien view" etc. which I enjoy thoroughly!  And recently in a dream I met a wise Moslem teacher who said he "saw God in all lving things" & addressed himself to a chicken, saying ,"  Oh Hen, I see God reflected in your eye!"  (Yet because of the killing of animals, I have always felt a reservation towards the religions originating from middle east)

Namaste!

[CFTraveler]

That is beautiful. 

Julie by Crip
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