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« on: August 16, 2008, 12:25:28 AM »

Hi folks!

The other night I was praying to Archangel Michael using my St Michael's cross for protection against the neg that is attached to me. It was threatening to attack me. This was while I was trying to go to sleep. I visualised a pillar of light surrounding me which was a sapphire blue in colour while I repeated Archangel Michael's name. I saw in my mind's eye while I was asking Archangel Michael for protection an image of a silver sword with a large round gem of some sort. The gem's colour looked to be a semi-opaque deep green and it seemed to have limitless depth. As I observed, I noticed a massive angel holding the sword in front of him, he had a pair of huge white feathery wings. When I checked out his face, it was a young male face with short curly hair but I got a bit freaked out because he had horns that looked like they belonged on a ram.

Does Archangel Michael have horns? Has anyone ever seen him with horns? And has anyone seen the sword with the gem I have described?

Prior to this I saw a neg with bright orange/red eyes in my mind's eye. After this I kept seeing ram horns on other faces.
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2008, 07:58:40 PM »

From what I've read:
The appearance is entirely determined by your belief system.. The entity will show itself in a form that is familiar to or expected in some way by you. To some, angels will have wings, to others not. Same would hold true for horns, I guess.. Perhaps you have mainly heard stories or seen pictures of angels with wings, but also pictures of devils with wings and horns, and you somehow mix up some associations.. Or maybe you are into fantasy art..? I don't know... I don't think it matters at all what they look like and that there is nothing to be worried about.. That it is more about what they do and how they come across..

I don't have any experience seeing angels, this view is just what I keep encountering in a variety of books, by astral projectors, or channels.
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2008, 02:16:50 AM »

That may be so but the very last thing I expected to see were horns. I have seen Archangel Michael once or twice in my mind's eye (always unexpectedly) whilst asking for his help in the past and he has never sported a set of rams horns until now.

Thinking about it, maybe the neg interfered with what I saw.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2008, 08:12:54 AM »

I know that pre-Christian pagans had a protective Hunter God with Ram's Horns almost exactly like that. This manifestation, both protecting you in the St. Michael sense and the pre-christian pagan influence means that you are tapping into your subconscious or your animus and a shadow aspect of yourself. It is darkness at first, which represents all that we must learn from and not learn as in being told, but learning as in becoming disciplined enough to tell the difference between good and bad. I think at a time of such spiritual conflict that it is partially an aspect of spiritual suppression over the decades
as we have as a whole become spiritually disconnected. It is an attempt to re-unify the self with the absence of understanding I think that causes these spiritual manifestations. The presence of St. Michael who is known to fight demons appeared to me in a dream in which I was being physically hurt by darkness, and Michael stood over the demon, swirling around as if he was wrestling it...and I expelled it through scattering elements in the 4 directions.
There is a book I am reading, J'Argon, which is about a Witch and a Christian Priest in dire political times you might want to look into it's by Sea Raven.
I send good thoughts your way, I think being careful is good and also train your instincts.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2008, 10:00:39 PM »

Hi folks!

The other night I was praying to Archangel Michael using my St Michael's cross for protection against the neg that is attached to me. It was threatening to attack me. This was while I was trying to go to sleep. I visualised a pillar of light surrounding me which was a sapphire blue in colour while I repeated Archangel Michael's name. I saw in my mind's eye while I was asking Archangel Michael for protection an image of a silver sword with a large round gem of some sort. The gem's colour looked to be a semi-opaque deep green and it seemed to have limitless depth. As I observed, I noticed a massive angel holding the sword in front of him, he had a pair of huge white feathery wings. When I checked out his face, it was a young male face with short curly hair but I got a bit freaked out because he had horns that looked like they belonged on a ram.

Does Archangel Michael have horns? Has anyone ever seen him with horns? And has anyone seen the sword with the gem I have described?

Prior to this I saw a neg with bright orange/red eyes in my mind's eye. After this I kept seeing ram horns on other faces.
Yes We saw him appear as himself and then put on the head of a boar with tusks . He taught us that he has an archdemon guise . We later learned that in the Jewish perspective God creates all both good and evil and the demons are a creation of God to punish the wicked and put the foot back on the path of righteousness .
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2008, 02:04:48 AM »

@elysium - Thank you for that. I do intend to be cautious as it's always difficult to know what's what when there's a neg attached causing trouble.

@Aunt Clair - Thank you for sharing that. I'm not sure why he would show himself to me with rams horns. As for the Jewish perspective - I don't see the point of God doing that.

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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2008, 10:13:32 AM »

In the Bible ,it says that angels are messengers and protectors . But it also says that they punish the wicked . I have found this to be true through the lessons we have seen as mystics . And through working as an exorcist . I think that your vision was meant to instruct you that the demon can be external but it is also within all of us , was part of Christ and part of Buddha and it is part of the angels .

 We have to transmute this lower negative aspect of self to become obedient to the Godhead . It becomes a glorious part of our personna . The Guardian Demon and the Lower Self united can bring the destruction of the magician , it can lead to madness and suicide and ultimately to descension where we exist as a demon in the afterlife .

The hope lies is raising its vibration by transmuting it pruning it and bringing the tree of life wick , we become stronger . And so we are asked to examine our base nature lead self and our negative ego . And we are taught that we must travel the qlippoth and look at the horns and realise that "There but for the Grace of God go I"

 And Christ has appeared with horns and a tail  behind him to instruct .



This is part of the nature of humanity . He transmuted his and teaches in mystic visions that we can transmute ours . Kundalini does this for us through attunements , projections , meditative trance lessons , dreamstate lessons and energy work we develop the body so kundalini can raise its vibration . The body becomes more light more loving more capable through this ascension over lifetimes .

 The Bilble is incomplete though in its conception of ascension . Reincarnation  and anglic projection are amongst the ideas that Bishop Irene discouraged and suppressed . Bishop Irenaeus removed the Gospelt of Judas so recently revelaed . This one man lives in infamy for his torture and murder  . One person made the Bible we know today . He alone chose the scrolls and codices to accept and which to reject . Tragically , he ordered the burning and burying of  Gospels . He made a record showing that he had read and discarded this important doctrine . In it , we see that Christ taught ascension , OBE and the projection from the body as angels . Christ said it would take 2000 years for humans to evolve to be able to begin to follow him in this manner . He took Judas to the realms but Judas was constrained and unable to go farther looking at the light beneath the door and wanting entrance , he learned how our vibration constrains us . As we build the light quotient of the Energy Body , we become closer to God .

God created all , both good and evil . Evil teaches us to be good . Demons torment ,constrain and destroy  . Arch angels also punish the wicked .Buddha says that we should thank our enemy for he has been our good teacher . Through adversity , we learn and we become more loving and compassionate .

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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2008, 06:14:01 PM »

Thanks AC.

As I understand evil, it comes from dark human minds, so I'm not sure why God would create evil, unless you're referring to God being in each and every one of us (to varying degree anyway). But I try to keep an open mind.

What you've shared makes sense to me in terms of my current life situation. Over the past year or so I have been making inner changes to myself, and now is the time for me to make changes to my life. I know I need to make the necessary changes in order to break free from this neg and future negs.

Your post shows that there is sync in this - last night I had a dream where I received a message related to change. More about that in a separate thread.
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2008, 09:40:01 AM »

Silver ferry. Can you please share the prayer with me. The one that evoked archangel Michael?

Thankyou aunt Clair that very was enlightening.

But what happens to demons that misbehave? Do they get punished for being who they are? Do they get karma for being bad?

I don't believe horns are bad. Say if they were in gold. Horns could be symbolistic for spiritual warfare.

I wanted to be dressed up in battle with horns like a vileking.
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2008, 12:27:16 PM »

It's Silver Firefly. :) Thanks.

I prayed to Archangel Michael as if I was praying to God. I also used a technique AC taught me last year, something to do with bringing a pillar of sapphire blue light around you and repeating "Archangel Michael" three times. It's my belief that Archangel Michael rocks up when he is truly needed.

Hmmm it is also my belief that demons and negs misbehave to some extent. I would think they would endure karmic backlash for the deeds they commit. I don't think it's punishment for who they are, instead it's because of what they do and the misery they cause. Of course, I've been hearing that some archdemons(?) are meant to be punishers. /shrug
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2008, 03:53:02 PM »

What is the ac technique in raw form? Can you be more specific. The visualization is really what made it work. That's probably how come you envoked archangel Michael. I visualized a blue orb above my dimension and the next night I was in a witch's channeling orb. So if you correctly visualized the pillar. Then the power of visualization would make things happen. Together with the prayer. Visualization is powerful enough to contact the higher self. So to be honest that's probably what really made it work. To be honest I suck at visualizing. I'm noob at it but a noob's visualization is more then enough to succeed.

Can you describe me how a blue pillar looks like so I can visualize it. And what should I say, like what prayer should I pray once visualizing the pillar.
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2008, 07:34:06 PM »

If you go to the seach button you can look for keywords ie Michael or Sapphire or Pillar
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2008, 09:39:14 PM »

There is no AC technique. AC is short for Aunt Clair.

As for visualisation, it's very easy. I'm sure Robert Bruce has an article or two about it somewhere on his website.

In any case I don't count on the visualisation to ask for Archangel Michael's help. Just asking him to help me and knowing that he will be there if I truly need him is more than enough for me but I do the visualisation because it makes me feel safe.
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2008, 02:57:28 PM »

after the fake aliens. Ones without emotions, Are fake because they are unreal to not have emotions. Have programmed me not to visualize. I've come up with a new strategy. That would be stimulating the 3rd and using the Psionics then visualize the blue to piller to gain contact with archangle michael. Last night I Prayed with heart felt prayer. And my prayer has not been answered. I have a feeling i'm cut off from god but I still pray.
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2008, 03:31:44 PM »

When we seek God we become closer . When our choices are of love and service we become closer . But when we seek the world and choices of non love it becomes harder to find our way back to source . No one is cut off from God , that would be impossible . When a person goes so far that they seem unable to go any further they need only turn around and there is God . So if you feel cut off turn around . And if you are following a path of light love and service and you can not feel God find it in the smiles and hugs around you . When we love , we are loved .
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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2008, 04:45:04 PM »

I stimulated my 3rd eye and a bit of the crown chakra using Psionics. I noticed allot of pink in my mindscape. The blue pillar visualization was disabled. I couldn't visualize blue for peanuts. So I decided to visualize a pink pillar to call in Saint Germain but it didn't work. I had a good try at visualizing a pink pillar facing horizontally on my eye screen. But in perception it looks like it's vertical since I’m horizontally viewing it, lying in bed looking up and seeing the picture flat. I grounded the visualization on a vertical and put up right. I was gathering allot of pink energy into my field. I felt love and express love to a neg called eel. And said if I was to remove you I would do it without harm. A visualized based love the color "pink" and gave it life. I visualized being smothered by pink energy emitting from the pink colored pillar. I tried to get that elevator inside with the pink pillar but was to hard. Then I found "source" of visualization drained. The point in the mind. The thought form creation which was generating a pink energy was drained. Possibly by et's. But I re give it life and energy which I was drawing in was re drawing in. I used my noise to sniff the image closer to my perimeters. I don't know how to manifest it in the mind maybe I do. What happened was it started manifesting astrally once the negs complain about it once I grounded the image vertically. I called for St. germain 3 times but it didn't work.

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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2008, 05:16:40 PM »

"Unless you can percieve it , you are not ready to recieve it . " If you want to develop your ability to see and hear angels and spirit teachers begin with reflection on all choices , actions and words , then try to raise energy and sit in meditation . IF you use the search button , you can find methods to begin.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2008, 06:16:30 PM »

thankyou.

I'd like to start with love heartsmile.gif but that's totally un thread related. I'll post somewhere else.

BTW, I think that picture of Christ and the kundalini is glorifying the underworld. In reality I believe that the kundalini would look nothing like that. It may confuse people on the path to righteousness
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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2008, 01:54:26 AM »

I don't think so . I feel that the point the author makes is that we are all capable of ascension or descension . We all have within us the guardian angel and the guardian demon . By our choices of love and service we ascend . But by our choices which are not of love and by our choices of abuse and aggression we descend instead . Descension leads to depression , anxiety , violence , addiction . Ascension leads to peace within and to reunion with Godhead . It is the raison d'etre , the reason to be . The demon is behind us it means . That does not glorify evil . It means watch out . Be aware that it is there this potential to descend .

In the Jewish perspective , which I agree with , God created all . God created good and evil . The lower level demons are chaotic and attack with opportunity but the higher level demons are obedient to Godhead and punish the wicked . Their punishment , consequences and lessons put the foot back on the path of righteousness .

The point is to examine what must be transmuted in ourself to become closer to God .  The image that the author conveys is what actually occurs to the energy body at one stage . We saw this in circle and felt shocked to see it on each other .And then we felt better to realise it was a lesson . Soon this ugly beast disappeared and the image was one of light and love again .

It is frightening and appalling to consider that we might have evil within us . This does not glorify evil . It reminds us that there but by the Grace of God , go we all .
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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2008, 09:04:15 AM »

First off, these aliens are as real as you and I are. I know this because of my own experience with a nasty group of them. I don't believe that they have no emotions. I think most likely their emotions were somehow suppressed to the point of having the appearance of being emotionless. There's a big difference between being emotionless and having suppressed emotions. Also if these aliens are fake then they cannot have disabled your ability to visualise. That will have come from somewhere else or something else. Besides, you have said in your following post that you were able to visualise certain things so I definitely don't think your visualisation skills have been disabled. Possibly your own belief that it's been disabled is interfering with your ability to visualise effectively. I'd start not by blaming whatever is hassling you but by examining your own belief system if you want a shot at improving your ability to visualise. When dealing with malevolent beings, one must beware of such trickery. Likely these aliens would love nothing more than to have you believing that you cannot visualise or that your ability to visualise (even if it's just certain things) has been disabled. One must have common sense in such situations because logic also applies to the occult and metaphysics.

I believe that prayers are answered if what you are asking is for the highest good. We don't always know what the highest good is because we usually only see a part of the bigger picture. That doesn't mean that your prayers weren't heard though - I think all prayers are heard but not all are answered in the way the person expects.

Like AC said, it's impossible to be cut off from God. I'd take her advice.

What I said about Archangel Michael being there when he is truly needed, maybe the same applies to other saints and angels etc. As always, my opinions and beliefs are subject to change. :)

Good luck. :)
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