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« on: October 23, 2010, 10:31:48 AM »

Hi folks,

I have a neg attached to me, and I'm being possessed gradually over time. I suspect this neg is demonic (RB also suspects this), but who has also lived as a human before.

He goes into my back via the back of my heart chakra. I know when he's doing this because I can literally feel his energy entering me through there, and it feels like I've got a heavy ball inside my chest, or my heart is full of heavy toxic gunk. I've also see him clairvoyantly coming and going via my back on a couple of occasions. I've seen him (during sleep) curled up inside my back, against my spine, like a sleeping foetus. Arching my back upwards (sleeping on my front) in an attempt to expel him from my body did nothing.

Recently, I tried Robert's instructions in PPSD regarding drawing magical symbols on my body. I did this for several nights before going to bed, and then praying that I would be protected. I also sleep earthed. The magical symbols disturbed the neg enough for him to get upset, but they did not deter him from entering my body or from attacking me. I tried tracing over the magical symbols with garlic oil, but that made no difference.

Last night, I tried covering my front with conductive fabric and covering my back with conductive fabric, and doing the same to protect my foot. The fabric was earthed via the electric socket in the wall (and the switch was turned on) The neg still entered my heart chakra, he tried entering from the back and from the front.

I'm just wondering why the neg wasn't deterred by the magical symbols or the earthing even though RB and I both suspect he is demonic? Any ideas?

Another thing, RB has suggested I learn the Sealing Rite from the Sephir Yetzirah and the full version of the LBRP, which I haven't done yet because I'm not confident with vibrating the words and visualising at the same time. Heck, even vibrating is a challenge for me to do because I'm deaf, and therefore cannot hear the tone/pitch/etc correctly. But I intend to learn them anyway. I found this version of the LBRP here, and I wondered if this is the correct version? As I'm not experienced with magic, I've never been involved in rituals etc. Have you got any tips for me in this area?
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2010, 08:13:26 AM »

I don't know if this is practical for you, but Tom had a link in here for a mantra.  I'm not sure if you can do it, but see if it helps:
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,3997.msg11432.html#msg11432
I'm thinking it may be easier than the LBRP (and no, I know next to nothing about it).
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2010, 08:28:58 AM »

Thanks. I'll look at it.

Well the whole point of doing the LBRP is to banish the neg from my space. The point of doing the Sealing Rite is to make myself harder to "see" on the astral plane, which would mean the neg would find it harder to "find" or "see" me if he tries to return when the LBRP has worn off (say, during sleep for example).
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2010, 03:05:58 PM »

It would be interesting to see if you could just ask the entity to move out of your body into something else, like a nice big piece of quartz. Or some other rock, really, if you feel that it appeals to the entity. If it works out you can set rules about how much it can take energy from you and when. It beats having someone living in your body with you.
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2010, 03:45:44 PM »

It would be interesting but the neg doesn't abide by any of my rules. :-/
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2010, 05:38:27 PM »

It's still worth trying to see if you can get it to relocate voluntarily.
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2010, 12:30:52 AM »

He will not relocate. I know because he refuses to do anything I tell him to. Even now he's telling me he won't do this.
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2010, 10:44:54 PM »

Hi SF,

Why is it there?

If we consider concepts such as Attraction and Resonance we are forced to consider that at some level and in some way we created the conditions for this scenario to occur. From our limited vantage point as incarnate human beings it is often impossible to know how we did this or why we did it, but surprisingly, just the acknowledgement of this possibility can empower us in terms of giving us the control back to begin to change our inner conditions.

Perhaps your focus should not be on the neg itself, but upon your inner and outer world. Create conditions of peace and harmony inside and out. Believe me, I know that this is so easily written yet so hard to achieve.

I know I always harp on about LOVE and LOVE of SELF, but it should always be the starting point in everything we do, spiritual and practical.

I really hope you find some peace.

Best wishes to you

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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2010, 12:56:45 AM »

Yes he's attached to me because I am deeply unhappy and have been since I was a kid. It was my unhappiness that attracted him to me, plus I was a defenceless kid. My mother was deeply unhappy too, and kept bad company, doing drugs, mistreating me, etc. Her boyfriends were the same.

I'm aware that in order to get him to leave, I must process and resolve the issues behind my unhappiness, but at the same time, because he is demonic, I need to protect myself as much as I can. Hence the thread about magical symbols.
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