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Title: Finding missing people with ap?
Post by: Golden Snake on November 18, 2015, 06:06:02 AM
Hi aunt clair and anybody else reading this, I recently figured out that you can astral project more than once in the same day, usually I would do
It once and wake back up but I figured out that if I use the same technique I did to induce sleep paralysis to leave my body, right after coming back from an ap, it will work again and  now I have alot of time to do what I wanted.
This brings me to the question has anyone out there tried to find a missing person with astral projection/obe's ect? I really wanna try to find this girl
Who Has been missing ever since 2007, after talking to one of my friend about it he replied me some negative thought like what if you find out shes dead and something bad happens to you?
I don't like that answer because it instilled an illusional fear that wasn't there at first. So if anyone has tried would it be safe? I guess im just looking for some reassurance on that subject and to see if anyone has tried finding missing children.
Any answers will be much appreciated thank you for taking your time reading this! :wavin


Title: Re: Finding missing people with ap?
Post by: Tom on November 18, 2015, 05:36:13 PM
There isn't any risk in trying it, but then, there is little point to making the attempt. The out-of-body environment is very subjective and there is a tendency to find what you expect. You may as well use a pendulum to do divination on map coordinates.


Title: Re: Finding missing people with ap?
Post by: Aunt Clair on December 20, 2015, 09:58:29 PM
 ## as Tom said the lower astral is very subjective, it is so much easier to be clairvoyant than psychic too. Psychics read the energy of the sitter. Clairvoyants see the spirit around them and Magickians evoke the spirits to communicate with them. Trying to find out if someone is alive or dead is not a strength of mine. In a class for mediumship , a group of 13 of us tried with nothing but a name written down. Only one was successful , that was my husband. He connected to the teacher who wrote the names on the board and asked us
1. alive or dead
2. if alive; what job
3. if dead; what cause
4. describe the person now or before they died

As the teacher knew the answers for each of the names, my husband did not bother trying to link with inanimate text. He probed the mind of the teacher who was very psychic but not clairvoyant at all. She was an incapable teacher of mediumship for that reason. But she taught psychic probing poorly too. Bill, my deceased husband , explained he fished each name by hanging it over the teachers head like a balloon in air energy sending it to her telepathically and then after linking like that with the balloon of each name he would probe continuously like bouncing a sonar off the bubble and back to his head again and again until his answer was given.


As for me, sorry mate, it is not a strenghth of mine. I have only met two people in my life who could do that well. One was a clairvoyant medium and psychic teacher of mine who was paid by police to find murdered women. She explained to us and to them that she was much more clairvoyant than psychic and found it very difficult to probe for body locations but instead could speak to the spirits of the deceased and their family IF they came when she called them. In one particular case, she tried again and again and the dead girl kept showing a variety of scenes. I saw some of these myself. But all of these messages were prominent places of her life and happy memories for her. We never found her body and even tried to join search parties to locate her.

Strangely, another woman was murdered by the same creeps and my teacher got her name, description and location of her body BEFORE she was killed. She got the name inexact . She said the girl was found by a women walking with a dog near a Master's Milk truck and heavy weeds on the side of the road and her name was Jane River. The poor lass was Jane Rimmer and she was alive and well when my teacher got those visions but her body was found when a master's milk truck with a chocolate cow was across the street and a lady walking her dog stumbled over the body.

Psychic retrieval is a skill all can learn like any metaphysical ability but it is not a strength for me. I get spontaneous visions when touching in psychometry. This can be provoked by finding a hot spot on a personal item such as a shoe or a ring or a toothbrush . The object ,ideally, has been used exclusively by the target and has been used recently. Then the object is turned by the reader until a hot spot of electric volting heat is found and focused upon . Then , in trance a vision can come especially in dim light with physical eyes closed.

Let us know how you do.

L&L,
AC


Title: Re: Finding missing people with ap?
Post by: Golden Snake on September 02, 2016, 03:04:19 AM
Thanks alot for the reply the girl was actually found in december sadly only her remains... I probably wouldve saw her dead body and wouldve been creeped out.


Title: Re: Finding missing people with ap?
Post by: Aunt Clair on September 09, 2016, 05:26:37 AM
It is eery that you thought to look for her just weeks before her body was discovered. Perhaps you were in touch with her spirit or those who love her and got some urging to help. Life is strange and death is stranger.  :illuminate


Title: Re: Finding missing people with ap?
Post by: Golden Snake on September 30, 2016, 04:26:54 AM
Right really eery! Im trying to put myself in that state of mind of when it happened and it was just a normal thought of using my ability to help people. Im having a hard time to pick out intuitive thoughts from normal ones


Title: Re: Finding missing people with ap?
Post by: ariesr on December 13, 2016, 04:24:59 PM
I've yet to try OBE, but am back to rediscovering my own protocol for achieving this.

I'm also looking at Lucid Dreaming during the day I.e. WiLDS, and am currently reading a book on WILDS. This technique in theory could make it easier to remember more of the experience to bring it back to this consensus reality.

Then I would be looking at using my already focussed intent to find the Database of Records (Akashic). And have my precise queries ready to examine the answers I get back on actualized data and future probabilities.

All in theory, I've given myself space and time to work on this each week.

Thought I would mention this in case it gives something fresh.