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My blessings to anyone out there suffering in the darkness. Tough situations don't last; tough people do.
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Do not Rest in Peace Wilhelmus Van den Berg instead teach and inspire us still beyond the veil so that we might learn more about the spirit world and so we might not miss you as badly as we do now.
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I was born by a river
Rolling past a town
Given no direction
Just told to keep my head down

As I took my position
A man fired a gun
I was so steeped in tradition
that I could not run...
September 09, 2016, 04:43:05 AM
I was raised by a river
Weaned upon the sky
And in the mirror of the waters
I saw myself learn to cry

As my tears hit the surface
I saw what had been done
I gave feet to my freedom
And I did run

Someday later I saw

the writing in the dust

It told me how I should travel
It told me who I was...
September 09, 2016, 04:34:21 AM
I will die by a river
As it rolls away
Bury me in the nighttime
Do not waste the day

High above the waters
That roll on to the sea
All the angels in heaven
Will laugh at me

My life was naught but a river

Rolling through my brain
Made of so many teardrops
Made of so much pain

Dan Fogelberg
~The River
October 23, 2015, 09:32:42 PM

Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life...
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Cosmic Christ by Alex Grey
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~*~Franz Bardon~*~
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"Perhaps they are not stars in the sky, but rather openings where our loved ones shine down to let us know they are happy." ~Eski
November 25, 2014, 03:28:30 PM
Life is like the river.Everything changes. Nothing remains the same. Everything Returns
~Hermann Hesse
November 25, 2014, 03:26:17 PM
Unless thou see'st, thou canst not hear. To hear and see, this is the second stage~ The Voice of the Silence by Madame Helena Blavatsky
November 25, 2014, 03:18:30 PM

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October 13, 2013, 01:54:24 PM
Surrender to Life & the Word, no amount of psychic-babblle or "energy work" will change what others easily do without our "powers and/or abilities" .
Do what you want to do with magick without magick and life will teach you magick through Work.
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Art by Kalsoom;
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Black Sophia;
O Goddess of
Wisdom & Compassion
who rocked
the cradle of humanity in SubSaharan Africa
at the Dawn of Civilization upon Earth.
August 08, 2013, 05:03:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dddrq61sq4U

Dedicated to Andrew Oats a peer magickian who was extraordinary!
August 08, 2013, 04:01:12 PM
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RIP Andrew Oats ; 17 August 1982-
5 Aug 2013 one of our 12 founding members of The River.
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August 29, 2011, 07:52:02 PM
"This river is a concentrated form of love. When we past through it,  we are forever altered. That is the symbolism of baptism.If we choose to come back and live among humans, we're  never the same."~ A Life of Miracles  

August 29, 2011, 12:21:04 AM
Vibration Raisers
*LOVE ALL
*FORGIVE ALL
*HEAL ALL
May 30, 2011, 12:30:08 AM
Music exists as an example showing a crack in the normal barrier between ineffable and neurolinguistic consciousness." ~Aikeena
May 29, 2011, 05:37:54 PM
Choose LOVE
Meditate personally daily. Meditate globally the 1st Sunday of each month. Meditate universally under each full Moon.
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God doesn't give you the people you want; God gives you the people you NEED... to help you, to hurt you, to leave you, to love you and to make you into the person you were meant to be.
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Make me strong in spirit.Courageous in action.Conquer my fear and doubt.
Let me act in wisdom.
Meet others with compassion.
Be a source of healing energies.And face each day with hope and joy ~•~

March 26, 2011, 09:52:17 PM
"The art of medicine consists of amusing the patient while Nature cures the disease"-Voltaire
March 20, 2011, 10:54:30 PM
Good night tired eyes. Soon the moon will sail on through the sky
good night tired eyes
soon the stars'll sing their lullaby.Rest your head and give a yawn
dream your dreams
and soon the sun will bring the dawn

March 01, 2011, 09:55:45 AM
This elastic won't snap. This cord will not be cut. This emptiness will not be filled.
February 14, 2011, 10:48:50 AM
Neat article about the misinterpretations of the Mayan Calendar:

http://lettertorobin1.site.aplus.net/id435.html
February 09, 2011, 11:24:23 PM
9 body centers "CHIU TIEN,YEN YUAN,REI SHENG, PU HUA, TIEN TSUN"  When disturbed, quietly recite this mantra to put yourself back in order. This is powerful enough to handle all kinds of spiritual trouble! ~ NI

February 07, 2011, 08:48:39 PM

"Everyone has scars. It doesn't matter who you are. You have been chiseled into a priceless work of art. " ~ Van Risseghem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkfQwAYVjog
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"I am one with the river guided gently by her stream to a shoreline in the distance.The lights of the city summon after me, to them I give no resistance..."
February 07, 2011, 01:15:11 AM

This boat I have fashioned for this adventure is my one and only home . The branches on the riverside sing to me in the wind "Godspeed you wayward passenger!"
February 07, 2011, 01:00:13 AM

"I am one with the river guided gently by her stream and when I set my feet on the ground,I'll never forget how sweetly moving me was the river I explored ~The River;VanRisseghem
http://musicvideoswiz.com/artist/Van%20Risseghem
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LOL!  Love that AC - I are special snowflake....
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Matthew 11:28 "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest."
February 06, 2011, 07:16:07 PM

hee hee
February 05, 2011, 11:51:08 PM
"Kaballah says that the child never forgets how to fly home each night in their dreams"
February 05, 2011, 11:46:49 PM

Meditation & Mysticism is Magick ! Open your mind to manifest the best of all possible worlds.
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"Within you there is a sanctuary to which you can retreat at any time and be yourself"~ Siddhartha by Herman Hesse
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Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear!
O clouds, unfold!
Bring me my Chariot of Fire! "
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"And the sky is full of dreams...but you don't know how to fly..." ~The Killers
https://cdn.boldomatic.com/content/post/PVCpcA/The-sky-is-full-of-dreams-But-you-don-t-know-how-t?size=800&padded=true
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"I told you that we could fly 'cause we all have wings but some of us don't know why "~INXS
February 05, 2011, 11:08:01 PM

Life is Good !
Live,Love & Laugh !!
February 05, 2011, 10:50:34 PM

Franz Bardon Forum
concerning Hermetic Magick and Initiation into Hermetics !!
http://fbf.hermetics.com/index.php/
February 03, 2011, 12:03:36 AM

"Lend me your eyes I can change what you see.But your soul you must keep, totally free...Awake my soul you were made to meet your maker..."
Mumford & Sons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD41MbiJKcU&feature=related
February 02, 2011, 11:56:32 PM

"As the water grinds the stone, We rise and fall.As our ashes turn to dust, we shine like stars"~Bullet by Covenant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPnWOem7jok&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=MLGxdCwVVULXd9xdWfOhx6_QrnzGYessNw
February 02, 2011, 11:39:19 PM

Every gift of God makes the soul ready to receive a new gift, greater than itself ~
Meister Eckhart
January 17, 2011, 04:55:54 PM
"Within every human lies a divine cosmic energy called Kundalini. Kundalini is Shakti, whom the sages of India worship as Mother of the universe. She is the Active aspect of the Absolute."~Swami Muktananda http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Philosophy-Kundalini.htm
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"Be not afraid, I go before you always, come follow Me and I will give you rest..."
http://www.plotinus.com/perfect_model19_copy.htm
January 17, 2011, 07:41:41 AM


Through love the devil becomes an angel.
Through love stones become soft as butter.
Through love grief is like delight.
Through love demons become the servants of God.

Mevlana Rumi
(1207 - 1273)
December 09, 2010, 11:48:38 PM
A cool (but old) picture that reminds me of the back of the big first-edition Astral Dynamics  book by Robert Bruce:  

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« on: January 13, 2018, 05:05:10 PM »

I am looking for a meditation technique that doesn't involve my heart slowing down and hence Pain.

I have started meditating again but every time I do my chest hurts. If I try and keep my breathing and heart rate up my meditation is superficial but my chest doesn't hurt!

I can start using my senses ie the sound of a stream, the damp smell, the cold touch of the water but as soon as I relax into it wallop my chest hurts and I gasp for breath!

So I have got to get around this to gain some kind of advance into where ever l want to go/do.

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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2018, 03:40:01 AM »

You need to go to a doctor. Sooner is better than later. You don't have to say you are meditating. It is enough to say that when you rest, relax, or focus on a task (like reading a book?) that you get chest pain and have difficulty breathing.

How do you feel when you dream? Or in deep sleep?
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2018, 08:00:17 AM »

I'm already under specialists Tom. This is one of the reasons I gave things up about 6 years ago! I haven't got the normal Blocked arteries, like most things with me I'm different Roll Eyes I have been trying the scene setting with some joy but as soon as I start enjoying and relax in....... Watching my own breath in and out seems about the best but you cannot move from this, although I am hoping that this can lead to other things once total control is mastered levmeditationgirl.gif
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2018, 02:12:12 AM »

Walking meditation can give you enough concentration to power insight practices if you can work with Theravada Buddhism. Concentration practices sharpen your mind and then you use that skill to examine your situation. The concentration gives you a stable foundation to let you keep the things you learn, so they don't just pass through and fade.
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2018, 12:23:16 PM »

High blood pressure runs in my family. My dad and his brother got it at age 28 and so did I. My dad is on medication for it to this day. His brother died soon after of an unrelated matter. I take pills for a few months here and there when my life spirals more out of control than normal. But frequently when I am trying to sleep, my heart feels like it is beating much too hard and much too fast. Then I start to think about my problems and how much coffee I have been relying on to stay awake at work. My point is that it feels very real when it is happening, and very physical. My emotional and mental responses to it are magnified. But objectively, it is never as bad as it feels. You read a lot of stuff about how this can happen when your heart chakra is active, but it doesn't connect. Likewise, with the throat chakra, you can actually feel like you are choking or having trouble breathing. And it is very real when it is happening. But now I was having the impulse to ask you how you know how much of your symptoms - and the pain especially - that you experience is actually physical and how much is in your energy body. Remember that when you are in your energy body it feels as real and tangible as your physical body. It is even possible to have an out of body experience and mistake it for the physical body walking around your home. William Buhlman goes into detail about how he has reality tests just for this exact situation. And you said that you have already ruled out the usual medical problems that could cause your symptoms.
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2018, 02:01:15 AM »

Regarding other posts to this thread;

High Blood Pressure or Hypertension can provoke stroke and heart disease, et cetera. It's important to listen to medical advice regarding blood pressure medications. These can cause problems if stopped and started and stopped again. Dropping excess weight and regular exercise can also help BP become more ideal. Meditation can help to de-stress and lower vitals for a time but this does not replace medication. 

Meditation does lower vitals. I don't understand this problem. Let us know how you get on. I feel that you should sort out the cause of pain with a doctor , first. Perhaps you have a form of apnea or some other source of that pain when you meditate.





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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2018, 02:52:12 AM »

Currently, I am in the normal range on my vitals. I bicycle 30 to 35 miles every week and cut back on sugar and salt. And more meditation and writing my dreams. So it is good. It just feels like my heart is going to pound out of my chest until I open my eyes, sit up, and check what is actually happening. Slow and steady, just like someone who is trying to sleep.

And maybe I'm not the only one who thinks it feels very tangible.

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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2018, 08:24:00 PM »

Hello Tom! Wave
You have started this year  bow.gif well with meditation, blulevitate.gif diet and exercise  gingernut.gif.

I just had a swim in the pool, myself . Brrr it was that brisk this morning that it took some motivation to get into the swim.

Bill Van den Berg died a few in November 2017. I am not doing any group meditation and I really miss it. I think I will take a page from your book and go sit myself down and meditate by myself.
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